Distance Tech investor Peter Theal Sitting for an interview with Ross Dauthat of the New York Times and talked about the recent political migration and future of humanity. Thiel also discussed her views on Antichrist, a topic that the Times chose to highlight, gave a salty title to the written version of the interview, “”Peter Theal and Antichrist,
But this was his friend Elon Musk’s ideas on the idea of Thiel, who were the most illuminated for those of us who were interested in the current collision of politics, business and technology – especially since Theal suggested that Kasturi does not really do much what he is saying. Either he, or musk is not very bright, another possibility that Thiel subtlely suggested that the table was on the table.
Ever since Musk introduced his “robot” in 2021, which was actually just one person in a robot dress, Tesla’s CEOs are hypnotizing the idea that everyone would eventually be a personal humanoid robot in their home. In fact, Musk feels that these robots will be so popular that within 10 years there will be one billion of them in the US. But Theal believes that if this is really going to happen, Musk is worrying about the wrong things when it comes to their politics.
Musk has been obsessed with budget deficit and has held America’s debt as one of the main reasons, in which he supported Donald Trump in the 2024 presidential election, which tosses at least one billion of dollars in the race at least one billion. Well, there were loans and other passion projects of Musk, such as displaying trans people and immigrants. But the loan was certainly a high priority for musk.
Thiel told new York Times He thought that if Musk really believes in his robot revolution, then the deficit would take care of itself.
I interacted with Elon a few weeks ago about this. He said that we are going to keep a billion humanoid robot in the US in 10 years. And I said: Okay, if this is true, then you do not need to worry about lack of budget because we are going to increase so much, development will take care of this. And then – Okay, he is still concerned about the budget deficit. This does not prove that he does not believe in billion robots, but it suggests that he may not have thought through it or he does not think it is going to be financially transformative, or there are large error bar around it. But yes, there is any way in which these things have not been thought enough.
The view of the theal is actually very common in Silicon Valley, although it is never like this. For example, the people of the all-in podcast are all friends, as well as talks with musk as well as how the development is going to take care of the budget deficit. The difference is that they talk about it that they talk as a way to rationalize their support for tax cuts, while they are loss hawk. According to the budget office of the non-Pakistani Congress, Trump’s so-called “Big Beautiful Bill” deficit is going to increase the deficit to $ 2.4 trillion. Slight up for older people and richBut All-in Bros feels that the increase in AI will correct all this, while insisting in losses, it will insolvent the economy.
But Theal is taking a slightly different angle on its version of the future full of our robot, and it is one that anyone who is getting intellectually honest should be taken seriously. If robots are actually going to distribute this revolutionary productivity, a future where we are all sitting, while robots work for us, are concerned about deficit like musk like Republicans?
The version of Tesla’s Humanoid Robot is called Optimus, and Musk Boston is trying to play catch-up with other robot companies such as Dynamics and Figure. The Atlas of Boston Dynamics was backflips almost a decade ago, while optimus is still being telephoned for Musk’s smoke and mirror shows.
In January 2024, Musk posted a video of the optimus folding laundry, but it was only later revealed that there was nothing autonomous about any of it. If you look closely, you can see the slip of one hand in the frame, showing that a human was doing real work, which was copied by robots, technology, which is from the middle of the 20th century.
While promising all working robots, while humans embrace a kind of holiday society, have been for more than a century. It was very common for very serious people to guess that on an average we would work anywhere for just 16 to 30-hour week. By the year 2000He believed that automation would make such a future unavoidable. And Musk is promising the same thing. He has also suggested that humans will need any guarantee basic income because now there will be no longer work for humans to be more attached.
It is all a fantasy, of course. At least this is a imagination if you apply the version of Musk’s politics for this future. And it is very likely that Musk understands it as an imagination. Even if humanoid robots have become common and most manual labor in the society, it does not mean that everyone gets a free salary. In fact, the musk is actually fighting against that idea, insisting that it is believed that freelorders should not get government benefits. And this is the place where the thiel is absolutely 100% correct. Musk does not understand the political implications of his own technology. It will be fundamentally individually engaged in separate politics to give everyone a universal basic income. Because in a world where productivity increases fundamentally, the property created is not shared with the workers.
American productivity has been fundamentally improved since the 1970s, while wages remain stable relative to that development. Whatever we have seen is the transfer of money to the richest people in the world, while everyone else struggles. In the last decade, the top 1% has seen an increase of at least $ 33.9 trillion in its money as per the data released today. Oxfam international,
This is not just a robot where Theal feels that Musk does not understand his own technique. Thiel, who has known Kasturi since the 1990s, when both were in PayPal, also suggested with the Times during their interview that Musk does not get how it would apply to Mars. Thiel was a major proposer of seatsiding, the creation of artificial island nations and the movement to create a completely new Independent world on the sea. And Musk’s vision for Mars was not completely different.
As Theal told Times:
There is a political dimension of “returning to the future”. You can’t do – this is a conversation that I did with Elon in 2024, and we had all these conversations. I had a seasiding version with Elon where I said: If Trump does not win, I just want to leave the country. And then Elon said: Do not go anywhere. There is nowhere to go there.
And then you always think about the right arguments later. About two hours after dinner and I was at home that I thought: Wow, Elon, you no longer believe in Mars. 2024 is the year where Elon stopped believing in Mars – not as a foolish science technique project, but as a political project. Mars was considered a political project; It was creating an option. And in 2024, Elon became confident that if you go to Mars, the socialist American government, then Vok AI will take you to Mars.
Musk has been obsessed to reaching Mars, even with some high profile nonsense-ups from SpaceX in recent months. And it is really interesting to hear to discuss these topics because it is absolutely correct. If musk really believes in things he is selling, their political approach will be fundamentally different. But he got trapped in this 20th century mode while tampering with his silly science projects, as Thiel said.
Thiel, a fascist who does not believe that women should be Capable of votingIs a very dangerous man. But he at least understands the world that he is trying to make. Downuts referred to Thiel as “enterprise capitalist” during the interview, a strange rebranding of the term Oligar. But musk does not understand the world that it is making. Whether it is better or worse for humanity, it is less clear.
